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Did You Know Article milestones
DateProcessResult
June 4, 2021Good article nomineeListed
July 24, 2021Peer reviewNot reviewed
August 23, 2022Featured article candidateNot promoted
November 1, 2022Good article reassessmentKept
Did You Know A fact from this article appeared on Wikipedia's Main Page in the "Did you know?" column on June 15, 2021.
The text of the entry was: Did you know ... that Elon Musk lost $16.3 billion in a single day, the largest in the history of the Bloomberg Billionaires Index?
Current status: Former featured article candidate, current good article

Where is the apology for the anitsemitic theory?

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I'm trying to verify the second half of this: "endorsing an antisemitic theory; he has since apologized for the latter". I can't find this statement in the article, which is a violation of WP:LEAD. There are three sources cited but the words "apologize" and "sorry" don't appear in any of them. In fact one of them says "Despite widespread criticism, Musk has not backed off his antisemitic claims" which is kind of the opposite of an apology. I see this was already discussed on the talk page in June but that discussion doesn't answer the question. GA-RT-22 (talk) 20:49, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Never mind, I found it, in the "Accusations of antisemitism" section. Not sure how I missed it before. I still think it's misleading to have three refs in the lead, none of which support the preceding material, and if I get ambitious I'll try to fix that. GA-RT-22 (talk) 21:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mr.Musk needs a new portrait

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Mr. Musk needs a new portrait. I am aware of the survey at the top but consider that he has changed tremendously since 2018. Please make a second survey or give him a new portrait all together, suggest Opinion E. Thank you. Sincerely, a random IP User. 2601:483:400:1CD0:4012:42FA:169B:52B8 (talk) 03:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 November 2024

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I would like to suggest that Musk be described as "a business magnate, oligarch, and investor known for his key roles in the space company SpaceX and the automotive company Tesla, Inc."

This more accurately describes his role in the economy, media, and politics. Firecat93 (talk) 17:21, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the {{Edit extended-protected}} template. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:23, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
oligarch, no. He is not an oligarch. 98.193.60.125 (talk) 01:22, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Oligarch?

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I would like to suggest that Musk be described as "a business magnate, oligarch, and investor known for his key roles in the space company SpaceX and the automotive company Tesla, Inc."

This more accurately describes his role in the economy, media, and politics, as Musk, the richest person in the world, controls X, spent hundreds of millions in the U.S. election, and has been promised a major regulatory role in the upcoming U.S. administration.

Firecat93 (talk) 17:54, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Does it, I disagree. It seems to be that he may be an oligarch soon, but he is not one yet. And business Magnet has been rejected more than once, as he is not often referred as that (or oligarch). Slatersteven (talk) 18:00, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
An oligarch is "a very rich business leader with a great deal of political influence." Why wouldn't Musk meet this criteria? Firecat93 (talk) 18:10, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Ask RS, as they need to say he is. Slatersteven (talk) 18:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Who is RS? Firecat93 (talk) 18:38, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
wp:rs reliable sources. Slatersteven (talk) 18:40, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You may want to read MOS:OPENPARABIO, which documents how we describe people in the opening paragraph of a biography. GA-RT-22 (talk) 20:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see many reliable sources which clearly and unambiguously call him an oligarch so I do not think its appropriate. What might be appropriate now is "known for his key roles in the space company SpaceX and the automotive company Tesla, Inc as well as his support of Donald Trump in the 2024 Election." if you want to highlight his seemingly newfound political superstardom (it does seem due to do so). Horse Eye's Back (talk) 21:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree. That's perhaps a better alternative. Firecat93 (talk) 22:53, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I would be opposed to that. His support of Trump isn't part of what makes him notable. GA-RT-22 (talk) 23:16, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I think you're confusing what someone first became notable for with why they are currently notable. In the last two years the political stuff has gotten as much significant coverage as his involvement with all his companies in that same time period combined, I'm not saying I agree with the relative importance (I tend to think that the media undercovers technology and overcovers politics) but we follow the coverage. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:39, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I agree with Horse Eye's Back. I believe we have reached a consensus. Firecat93 (talk) 04:12, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see a consensus here. GA-RT-22 (talk) 05:48, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Let us put it up for a vote. Do you have an argument against including it? It has generated significant media coverage. Musk's election related content has generated billions of views. Firecat93 (talk) 06:27, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
RFC? OK. Slatersteven (talk) 11:17, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, can you please initiate it? Firecat93 (talk) 11:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I said OK, why do you need to ask? Slatersteven (talk) 11:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am unfamiliar with the process. I am relatively new to Wikipedia. Sorry. Firecat93 (talk) 11:41, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I;ll try, but remember I am not you. Slatersteven (talk) 11:46, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Second. QRep2020 (talk) 07:54, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Request for comment on expanding description.

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Should we add "as well as his support of Donald Trump in the 2024 Election." after ""known for his key roles in the space company SpaceX and the automotive company Tesla, Inc "? Slatersteven (talk) 11:52, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Discussion (Request for comment on expanding description)

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Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 November 2024

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Reverse titles of 1997 baccalaureate degrees FROM Bachelor of Arts in Physics and Bachelor of Science in Economics TO Bachelor of Science in Physics and Bachelor of Arts in Economics.[1] 47.45.77.8 (talk) 07:41, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Do you have a more complete citation that could be used to verify this? I was unable to verify the current wording despite there being six sources cited. But a few of them say that BA in Physics is correct. GA-RT-22 (talk) 13:55, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

References

  1. ^ University of Pennsylvania website
 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 21:36, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 November 2024

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Change "Despite both Musk and Errol previously stating that" to "Despite both Elon and Errol previously stating that"

Using the last name for Elon and the first name for his father is unnatural, especially because they have the same last name. 57.132.191.74 (talk) 15:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Done Alpacaaviator (talk) 21:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Business career

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business career is too long. it needs an another page and to be trimmed here. Loveforwiki (talk) 15:41, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That's not a bad idea. I split it off to Draft:Business career of Elon Musk for consideration. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:10, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Great. we can trim it from main page. Loveforwiki (talk) 09:49, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Proposal

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An IP suggested adding a new image and removing the current one (2018 isn't yesterday). I would like to take this opportunity and propose to create a new survey; I'm in favour of the following image:

Elon Musk in 2022, Colorado

JacktheBrown (talk) 00:54, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The previous rfc closed ten days ago. It's too soon for another one. GA-RT-22 (talk) 00:59, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I am in favor of the 2022 image as well. 2018 was seven years ago, and he looks way different now than he did then. Shoot for the Stars (talk) 05:13, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

DOGE does not exist

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Dept of government efficiency does not exist and nobody was appointed to it yet since Trump is not yet President. None of these things are a fact as of today (11/12/24) 2603:7080:7006:67EF:11CA:974:93D3:409E (talk) 06:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I think the wording needs to be changed to make it clear that this is an appointment to a yet-to-be-created position. Do we have any reliable sources stating when the department of government efficiency will be created? Presumably Trump cannot officially create this during the transition? Rosbif73 (talk) 10:10, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We should not engage in speculation, no leave this out until it becomes a thing. Slatersteven (talk) 10:44, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Republican?

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All the sources I can find refer to Musk as a registered independent, not a Republican. CalvinCoolidge228 (talk) 16:47, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I removed it from the infobox. He's allied himself with Trump, but there's no evidence he has changed his registration to Republican. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:52, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I believe Musk has stated publicly that he's aligned with Republicans now (and I'm guessing RSs have reported on it). Surely, since he's unironically stated such a shift, it would override outdated sources? Kcmastrpc (talk) 17:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Amercica has an odd system, but is not his started affiliation not like party membership, he is registredas an independent? Slatersteven (talk) 17:17, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

"Political adviser"

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It's frankly too soon to name him as this, but upon the creation of the Department of Government Efficiency, should he be referred to as a political adviser? a political pundit? of a time long enough, Elon Musk has been quite active within politics, and his effect is grand enough. BarntToust 22:15, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 13 November 2024

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Add Elon Musk’s political party and fix the current error with his designated office, says “Assumed” instead of “Assuming”. Vlklng (talk) 23:34, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

If he’s a registered independent, that is what his political party should be. Vlklng (talk) 23:35, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
 Not done: Musk's political affiliations are complex, and we've written quite a lot about the topic. I don't think we should be so quick to summarize his party in the infobox as "Independent" when that could be misleading—particularly with the amount of coverage he's received lately as one of republican president-elect Donald Trump's top supporters. Also, the "Assumed office" text is a standard part of the {{Infobox officeholder}} template and can't really be changed here. Bsoyka (t • c • g) 01:42, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 November 2024

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In October 2024 Tesla loses a Court Battle in a Swedish Labor Dispute. A district court ruled that Sweden's constitution prevented it from taking a side in a labor dispute between Tesla and local unions that has dragged on for 11 months. Steenskadhede (talk) 10:30, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — BerryForPerpetuity (talk) 15:12, 14 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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