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Aaron Lopez

The article states, "Aaron Lopez, a Jewish merchant who played a significant role in the town's involvement in the slave trade." But, the citation listed does not support this claim. The footnoted source states, "he headed a booming mercantile business. Not long after, he became a key supplier of munitions to American revolutionary forces, dabbled in whaling and, shamefully, participated in the slave trade." I bring this up because there are many hate sites claiming he made his fortune and primarily traded in Slaves although this is false. His primary business was whale oil and whale oil candles. I am not very wiki-savvy. So, instead of making a change myself, I am bringing it up here so someone who knows the wikirules better than I do can do something about it. 73.170.193.176 (talk) 06:16, 7 September 2022 (UTC)[reply]

unsubstantiated claim

the following unsubstantiated claim should be removed: "The U.S. refusal to support specifically Jewish immigration, however, stemmed from something else, namely antisemitism"--Exjerusalemite (talk) 17:43, 17 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

since there don't appear to be any objections, i'll remove that sentence.--Exjerusalemite (talk) 17:03, 24 November 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Update dates

In the epigraph "Current situation" the data extends until 2010. I think it would be good if data from later years were added. Thank you. Sirslayercort (talk) 08:34, 17 June 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move 1 January 2025

It has been proposed in this section that History of the Jews in the United States be renamed and moved to Jewish history in the United States.

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History of the Jews in the United States → Jewish history in the United States – I would like to request this move as I believe the target article title is more natural and succinct.

In being titled “Jewish history in the United States”, my proposed title also avoids simply referring to “the Jews”, which is not inaccurate but doesn’t reflect the history of American Jews rather than Jews in general being the primary focus of this article (although see the paragraph below).

I did think about American Jewish history (currently a redirect) as an article title, but I prefer “Jewish history in the United States” as it seems to have a wider scope, for example including within scope the history of Jews in the territory of the US before American independence. That said, as I have written above, the main focus of this article is on American Jews.

I’m conscious there are many other articles on Wikipedia titled “History of the Jews in X”. I similarly think these would generally be better titled as “Jewish history in X” for the same reasons of naturalness, succinctness and precision. Although I haven’t made this a multi-page move due to the scale of making such a wide-ranging change. I’d welcome more experienced editors’ views about this.

I’d suggest, if this move request is not successful, that Jewish history in the United States be created as a redirect to this page. As it’s quite a natural search term.

Finally, I would note my proposed title aligns with the main article on Jewish history. Rafts of Calm (talk) 19:28, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]