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Change The title name to Sagarmatha Chomolungma
[edit]Dear Editor This mountain doesn't belong to British empire and also didn't have been colonized. So nat any British institute or Wikipedia have name it's title as the secondary names. The basic name should be in native names. So with due respect I request you to change the title to Mt. Sagarmatha Chomolungma. Not any other name can be allowed. In description some empire named it as Mt. Everest. Because, not any british people had explored it, but only saw from far away and by calculation they estimated its height. So no one can claim it. So please change it. Thanks 103.174.168.65 (talk) 15:43, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- Wikipedia's policy for article titles is to use the common name used in secondary sources (specifically its common name in the English language... as this is an English language encyclopedia). See WP:COMMONNAME for details. Leventio (talk) 16:11, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
- This is just colonialism dressed up and being covered for. Parenthesize the coloquial name if you must so that people can search for and find the article, but it's Qomolangma first, not Everest. Our goal is to provide people with accurate information, and part of that is correcting a false narrative perpetuated by how we present that information to the public. It's accurate to say it's called Everest by many people; I have a nickname too, but that's not how the government knows me, and my name wouldn't change if suddenly everyone started calling me Stephen. It would be a spit in the face if they kept calling me that when I don't like it. This is an ethical misstep. Wikipedia is a resource for an informed public, and part of education is updating outdated information and leaving behind old biases--that starts with the title. 68.69.203.33 (talk) 19:59, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Again, review WP:COMMONNAME for details on how we determine article titles with multiple names. Also, Sagarmatha already serves as a redirect for this article, so people who search that will find this article... Leventio (talk) 21:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- When writing an encyclopaedia with the aim to educate people, policies that cause misinformation to be spread, ought to be disregarded. Mount Everest is only a recent name and it is one pushing colonialism in the article, and it does not provide neutrality in the international edition of Wikipedia. Please mind that this encyclopaedia also serves the Indian subcontinent which has as many English speakers and readers as the USA, and which is the location of the mountain at issue. 109.193.92.252 (talk) 05:05, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
- Again, review WP:COMMONNAME for details on how we determine article titles with multiple names. Also, Sagarmatha already serves as a redirect for this article, so people who search that will find this article... Leventio (talk) 21:00, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- This is just colonialism dressed up and being covered for. Parenthesize the coloquial name if you must so that people can search for and find the article, but it's Qomolangma first, not Everest. Our goal is to provide people with accurate information, and part of that is correcting a false narrative perpetuated by how we present that information to the public. It's accurate to say it's called Everest by many people; I have a nickname too, but that's not how the government knows me, and my name wouldn't change if suddenly everyone started calling me Stephen. It would be a spit in the face if they kept calling me that when I don't like it. This is an ethical misstep. Wikipedia is a resource for an informed public, and part of education is updating outdated information and leaving behind old biases--that starts with the title. 68.69.203.33 (talk) 19:59, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
- Sagarmatha is the original common name. I vote to delete the English name. The English can call some hill as Mount Everest. 100.0.27.159 (talk) 00:38, 10 October 2024 (UTC)
"Modern pronunciation
[edit]One sentence reads as follows:
"The modern pronunciation of Everest (/ˈɛvərɪst/) is different from Sir George's pronunciation of his surname (/ˈiːvrɪst/ EEV-rist)."
In North American English I have heard only /ˈɛvərɛst/ and not /ˈɛvərɪst/.
Remove Unneutral Text
[edit]In Mount Everest#Routes, the last sentence of the 1st paragraph says:
This was, however, a route decision dictated more by politics than by design, as the Chinese border was closed to the western world in the 1950s, after the People's Republic of China invaded Tibet.
Meanwhile, it doesn't fit in the context which basically talking about technical details, and the word invaded seems to be unneutral, because the article linked to the word is Battle of Chamdo and this article is much more neutral.
Furthermore, this content can be found in Three_Steps, which is the main article of the north route. MspreilsCN (talk) 14:05, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
- No comment on the rest of your post but, in the context of the Chinese invasion of Tibet, "invaded" is the correct word to use. RegentsPark (comment) 14:42, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
Semi-protected edit request on 30 June 2024
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The article states: Its elevation (snow height) of 8,848.86 m (29,031 ft 8+1⁄2 in) was most recently established in 2020 by the Chinese and Nepali authorities.
It would be good for the article to show a profile of Mount Everest's full height, and to make clear that climbers actually climb only part of this profile (i.e. part of the geological mass). For example, driving into North base camp and summiting from there, means climbing 3700m, or 42% of Mount Everest's height. Flying from Kathmandu to Lukla and starting from there means climbing 5990m, or 68% of Mount Everest's height. So suggest inclusion of the following paragraph:
Climbers typically ascend only part of Mount Everest's elevation, as the mountain's full elevation is measured from the geoid (global mean sea level). The closest sea to Everest's peak is the Bay of Bengal, almost 700 km away. So to approximate a climb of the entire height of Mount Everest, one would need to start from sea level there, a feat accomplished by [Macartney Snape's] team in 1990.
This could be a reference to Mount Everest's full height profile (see Figs 2, 3, 5)
This provides a detailed examination of standard and non-standard climbing routes. Suggest inclusion of it as a reference in addition to [256]. 124.148.218.244 (talk) 06:44, 30 June 2024 (UTC)
- Not done for now: Perfectly valid request, could you provide the map you are looking to add? Geardona (talk to me?) 02:36, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for your response. How do I provide the image of the map to you? Is there a way to upload? 124.148.218.244 (talk) 13:42, 1 July 2024 (UTC)
Somebody please educate me why Everest belongs to china as well 176.205.23.138 (talk) 18:01, 28 July 2024 (UTC)
- Mount Everest is on the border between Nepal and Tibet. Tibet is an autonomous region of China, so thus the Northern portion of Everest and the Northern half of the summit lie in Chinese territory. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 18:27, 29 November 2024 (UTC)
Sagarmatha
[edit]Sagarmatha lies in nepal only in nepal 49.126.115.104 (talk) 13:02, 20 August 2024 (UTC)
- Mount Everest's peak is on the border of China and Nepal. The north route is in China. The south route is in Nepal. Phoenixskies (talk) 20:34, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
Andrew Irvine
[edit]Given that the discovery of George Mallory's body rates a mention, should the article also include a sentence about the finding of Irvine's partial remains earlier this year? Mr Larrington (talk) 02:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
Tibet, not China
[edit]Why have you replaced all references to Tibet with China? Mt Everest lies on the Tibet/ Nepal border. Not China, which invaded Tibet and is guilty of Genocide of the Tibetan Culture and People! 160.72.23.21 (talk) 14:15, 3 December 2024 (UTC)
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