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Somme
[edit]How was Tolkien in the Battle of the Somme, which started in July, 1917, but then caught trench fever and was invalided to England in 1916? The date of his returning to England must be wrong. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.117.148.98 (talk) 04:16, 30 July 2024 (UTC)
- The Battle of the Somme occurred from 1 July to 18 November in 1916. JRRT was invalided back to England on 8 November 1916. There's no contradiction. Deor (talk)
Inflation
[edit]I have just checked the Bank of England inflation calculator (as currently linked from this article) and it tells me that £190,577 in 1973 is equivalent to £2,007,606.89 today - which is not the value currently used in the article against that cite.
The Bank of England website itself indicates that inflation calculations based on the Consumer Price Index (which it provides) may not be appropriate for all purposes, and refers to the site Measuring Worth, which gives a wide variety of possible bases for calculations. One of these is 'Real Wage or Real Wealth', which gives an equivalent value for Tolkien's probate (in 2023 - perhaps they use end-of-year figures and haven't done 2024 yet?) of £2,911,000, which is *Ta-daaa* what the {{Inflation}} template produces.
Therefore, I propose we restore the article to use {{Inflation}} and its associated templates, which appear to know what they are doing, and will not require annual maintenance. -- Verbarson talkedits 15:07, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
- Yes, just do it, no idea why the editor objected really. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:28, 14 August 2024 (UTC)
Hwæt!
[edit]A couple of times (most recently here) I have come across a rather lurid description of Tolkien starting a lecture costumed and armed as an Anglo-Saxon warrior. I assume this is an exaggerated reading of Carpenter's account as mentioned in the article, where Tolkien is compared (in manner, not dress) to an A-S bard. Did Tolkien ever do cosplay? -- Verbarson talkedits 16:10, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- I've never heard such a thing. Sounds like an embellishment of the Carpenter biography but I'm not sure where my copy is right now. Another current trend is to paint Tolkien as a fascist, citing posthumous biographies of (in my opinion) questionable value from the 1990s onward. Michael Martinez (talk) 16:35, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
- He wore his normal clothes, and astonished the students by declaiming the start of Beowulf. He didn't dress up, wave a sword, play the harp, or sing to it for that matter. Chiswick Chap (talk) 17:40, 27 August 2024 (UTC)
Inflation
[edit]Hi. I noticed that in the "Final Years" section, {{inflation}} (and related templates) are used to provide an inflated value of his estate. The inflation function used, however, is "UK" rather than "UK-GDP". Per the template documentation for the inflation template, because the basic "UK" function uses CPI/RPI values, that function shouldn't be used for larger numbers (it tends to overstate the actual value). Consequently, the parenthetical beginning with "equivalent to..." should replace the "UK" with "UK-GDP" in all three inflation-related templates. See Template:Inflation/doc for more information. 199.66.69.23 (talk) 21:47, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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J.R.R Tolkien - his death location is Bournemouth, Dorset, England. Not Bournemouth, Hampshire, England. Bournemouth is not in Hampshire. 86.16.42.48 (talk) 00:45, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
- No, it was in Hampshire in Tolkien's time. It became Dorset in 1974, after his death. Chiswick Chap (talk) 02:22, 14 October 2024 (UTC)
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